customers continue to invest on mine projects to bring on new mines to rebalance portfolios, to improve the technology that they have in their mines to lower the unit cost of production. we are seeing investments in the u.s., land acquisition to prb, clear indicator of the long-term potential that our customers see out of that region as well. >> it sounds like no credit problems with any of the customers. china turning around. united states stabilizing. 2013 could be a dramatically better year for joy global than 2012. >> it could be a better year. i caution about how quick the turn around is going to occur. customers have i think grown very cautious about journalling the gun. we've seen them do that several times before. 2008, they cut too quickly. 2011, they ramp back up maybe too quick until retrospect. much more cautious, much more methodical. upside in our business. one of the things we've dub that he , we cut the cycles down. today it takes us five months to manufacture a shovel, down from 15 months. our response time is quicker than it was a couple of years ago. we'll see an improvement in the